The plan was that people on land would monitor the sonar. They would then guide Dave through his radio on where to look, or in this case, where to put out his hands and try to grab at something. However, it was very difficult. You can't like swim normally in tar. you can't really kick. So what we came up with is we had a 30- or 40-foot pole that the guys from the boat put in the tar. Once I submerged, I grabbed onto that pole and I would use that to pull myself down.