Even as difficult. Yeah, a little imagination. And Megan's right, even as difficult. No, even as difficult as, I mean, I think Megan's right, is difficult. There are also problems with it. There are structural problems, as you point out, Sarah. There are a lot of challenges here. But the alternative is seeing the guy that people saw last night on stage stand for President against Donald Trump, who, by the way, did not have a great night. He was more disciplined than usual. We can spend some time on some of the claims that he made. But Joe Biden, this Joe Biden, I think, would lose to Donald Trump in a Reagan -style landslide.

to talk about Donald Trump and just to sort of show where we're going here. We also need to get to Donald Trump will be picking his vice presidential candidate soon. And there is another debate scheduled for September. And there's a lot of discussion over whether that debate will happen. So let's let's first discuss Donald Trump's performance. Kevin, I got to tell you and I've said this many, many times about Donald Trump. I've said it, you know, when Fawny Willis turned out to be having an affair with her coworker, whatever God Donald Trump prays to, he gets the best opponents in law, in life, in politics. It didn't really matter what Donald Trump's debate performance was last night. And the setup that the Biden team asked for, no live audience, having the mics cut off, sort of very somber debate with no sort of antics involved. Put the focus on Joe Biden. And it really helped Donald Trump, who, as Steve alludes to, it's not like Donald Trump was some master debater last night. Although I would overall, it was a better debate performance than we've seen at other times from Donald Trump.

Yeah, whatever God Donald Trump praise to Moloch gets results, apparently. You know, what the Biden people did and the way this debate was structured was they took a guy whose problem his main political problem is an inability to impose discipline himself and impose discipline on him on his behalf. They did the job for him. They would have been better off just taking the exact opposite approach, do it in front of a live audience, do it in front of a Fox News audience. Let the guy really shout at the Raptors and it would have been a very different sort of evening. One quick thing back to Megan's earlier point. One of the frustrating things about this is watching people who don't seem to be able to calculate their own political self -interest. Harris is not only a person whose position to be able to be the one who does the political equivalent of leaving the revolver in the bottle of whiskey on Biden's desk and telling him to solve the problem. She's also the one who has the strongest incentive to do so because she's worried about her political future. Her political risk isn't that she's going to try to do something and fail. It's that she rides this train right into the bus, so it's headed for if these people put Donald Trump back in the White House, none of them has a political future. Harris right now possibly could salvage some kind of career for the future. If Donald Trump is president in 2015, no, she doesn't. She'll be lucky to get that MSNBC job. And it probably, even that probably won't happen.

Interestingly, she was out there last night doing the shows. She went on with Anderson Cooper on CNN. She went on with Lindsay on ABC as I was there. And, you know, she had her line. She seemed flustered on television. Her line was, it was a slow start, but a strong finish. And for what it's worth, I did think that Joe Biden got better through the course of the debate. The beginning of debate was the worst part of it. Unfortunately, that's sort of how the tone gets set. But you know, when Anderson Cooper was pressing her, Lindsey Davis pressed her as well. You know, you'd been out there saying that he was fine. Is this the Joe Biden you were also seeing behind closed doors? Is this what you were describing? There were obvious moments of sort of pause, hesitation in her answers. This is the worst part about being vice president. You're sent out there to do impossible jobs that can only hurt your political future, and there's no threading a needle. You just have to make a choice over what you're going to do.

And I think that she did not. I watched her struggling with the choice and she made, this is actually why I think Democrats have been so eager to hang on to Biden. She made wrong choices continually, right? You could see her struggling with the decision whether to throw him overboard and just nakedly go for his job, or whether, you know, she wanted to spin for him. And what she ended up doing was she did one thing she did too, which was show that she could hit the talking points he failed to make. She did that, right? The thing she didn't do well was that she didn't spend for her boss in the obvious way, which is you just try the Jedi Mon -Trik. Not because anyone believes it, but because that's what you do as a loyal Democrat. Well, you know, I thought Joe Biden, you know, this answer, the one answer he gave that I liked, thought that was really good. And I think, you know, she didn't do it. And I think this goes to she's not good extent, peraniously, she gets, she might be good at asking questions as a prosecutor, she's not good at answering them and never has been. And her political instincts are bad. And I think that that has extended Joe Biden's life for quite a bit.

And this just takes all the pressure off of Trump, you know, there people out there like Megan and like me who think that a literally brain -dead Joe Biden is less of a danger to the country than a vigorous and energetic and engaged Donald Trump would be. But there aren't many of those voters, and their minds are already made up about things. What you have right now is that Joe Biden just went out there and he looks like a guy who shouldn't be allowed to operate a Subaru, much less be, you know, a guy who is in the driver's seat of the country to torture the metaphor. And no one is talking about the question of whether Donald Trump can do this job, whether Donald Trump is temperamentally fit for it. All the questions that Donald Trump doesn't want to have answered because any sensible person who looks at the guys, no, of course He was terrible at it last time around. He did try to overthrow the government on his way out the door. There is that little detail. But no one's thinking about that right now. They're thinking, holy crap, does Biden know where his car is parked?