I'll be curious to see if any many mediaevalists who study the development of the church in detail, you know, how they receive that ttha theory. It also gets to this problem of spreading democracy. Cause we have this idea, while democracy is great, so we should help other people get become democracies. And all right, let's invade a rack, and we'll bring democracy to these people. Well, they didn't work out so well. As near as i could figure, it's because they're so tribal that the idea of this kind of large, nation wide democratic process we think of as good doesn't work if you have these devoted and often in conflict, tribes

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