Playful Banter and Family Anecdotes

Hi. Rhiannon Hamam of the 5-4 podcast joins Katy, Cody, and Jonathan to talk about the crisis of Trump ignoring federal court orders, Chief Justice John Roberts' brief response, fentanyl potentially being named a weapon of mass destruction, and Elon Musk's thoughts on "magic money computers."

Produced by Jonathan Harris

Edited by Nick Mundy

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