Deneb vs Carticulator

Deneb and carticulator are two different tools that can be used together. Deneb has the ability of down loading, or you create the visual when daniel and i were kind of working on he was showing me the visualing all due we need really this ability to export what people do, but not sheer personal data. We ned to get the templets out of this. He say oh, that's a great idea. And so he worked on a lot, we kind of refine the idea this templeting thing. So i think these tools get these tools take off when you have a gallery of free built, creatively built things that you can go pick up