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381: Fighting The Odds and Trauma, With Kelsi Sheren.
Jocko Podcast
The Fucking Disgrace
"I'm screaming at the top of my lungs. I could never be a handler, because I'm not calm," she says. "We were told at this point that because of who the mom was, they were going to be found ... It was like, take them or die." She adds: "Could I actually pull this off and redeem some sort of something? Just anything?"
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