Kira Rudek is a member of the Ukrainian Parliament and the leader of the Holos party based in Kyiv. She says she has talked to almost everyone and what I have not heard is a plan. Do you think there's a risk in pushing him too far in a moment like this? It's our fight. We are taking it, we are asking President Biden saying, please do that because it's us who are victims.
Six months into its escalation of war with Ukraine, the calls to declare Russia a state sponsor of terror have never been louder. Delaney Simon from the International Crisis Group makes the case against doing so and Kira Rudyk, a member of Ukraine's parliament, says the United States has nothing to lose.
This episode was produced by Jon Ehrens, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Efim Shapiro, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram, who also edited.
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