The Trial of Mike Pence

I don't think anybody who's surprised to see Mike Pence say the things. He's said it already. It will be surprising if Mark Meadows is there. I think that'll be much more damaging than from hearing from anybody we've heard from the January 6th or the former vice president because people expect that. So I think that's going to be very interesting to see. And again, I just don't want to overstate this, but I think discovery is very important here. If you think this is an open and shut thing on either side, you are completely wrong. This is going to be a much more complicated thing for American people to understand.