I used to be a debater and I debated for multiple years at a pretty high level in high school. But there came a point where it became formulaic, where I figured out how to do it... It was much more about rhetorical deafness than thinking deeply. That was the great takeaway for me in doing this because I never debate very casually in high school once or twice. We did parliamentary debating where heckling was allowed. And so...

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