Dargene's writings are the first direct statement of that, I think. In the FEDO. It's the first day. And a cemander came out with the idea that there is just an object with a shape. We don't know who is the first one. But also, I mean, it's a different way of understanding the world,. I mean, Plato is seeing the world in it as ideals. Whereas Aristotle is more, he's more about looking in the insides of octuses. And absolutely. Do observatory science. Right. The fact that in the humanity, the FEDo is one of the most read probably. And nobody notices that it

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