At this point in your life you were doing gigs around various small, somewhat seedy venues through angeles. The troubadour was the third show. Nick matthey, my old next door neighbor, had become my manager and he had actually done a pretty good job,. Ande ad decided we'd have three show cases. Which show cases was like, you didn't get paid, i guess that's how it always is nowbut you did a a 20 or 30 minute show, and then people could come and get a taste for who you are.