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328: ‘The Warden’s Dilemma’, With Ben Thompson

The Talk Show With John Gruber

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Is There a Difference Between Walking and Running Around?

"I'm pretty ceptable of yarnt games. But i think the var experiences that replicate sitting in a chair are much more compelling," he says. "That's ti'd still like to see phil schillers a, like it was at the trial, where they were asking him about his experience with gaming."

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