"If it was built in, like it was supposed to be, into the structure of their own programs, like it wouldn't be taboo right now," he says. "I don't tend to discuss how people idon'tknowi what is an atheist? Somebody who doesn't believe in god?" Gervas seems pretty happy. Do you know any happy atheists? Well, i don't. I think there's more peoplei just given the numbers, it's probably 50 50."

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