I didn't really realize how much we were going at it kind of in the in the heat of the moment but I happened to catch a few while I was in Philly on this you know sports news and I was like man now I know what everybody's talking about. He'd come out at the jump ball and he'd look over and glare at me and I'd glared him and we both kind of smile and get ready to go at it againyou know so he's a interesting guy good good dude yeah. Yeah well I can only imagine what that call with Joel was like when when you were getting the job. Well you know what it was it was good it was um that a couple