
#2103 - Sam Morril
The Joe Rogan Experience
Celebrity Culture and Eccentric Leadership
This chapter examines the intricacies of celebrity culture, focusing on female comics and fan obsession, while contrasting it with insights from a biography about Elon Musk. The discussion highlights Musk's demanding work ethic and the unconventional antics of notable CEOs, illustrating the unique pressures they face in high-profile industries. Additionally, it explores different leadership styles, drawing comparisons between intense figures like Musk and more approachable leaders.
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Speaker 1
But
Speaker 2
if you're a female comic, I think they become obsessed with you too. Yeah,
Speaker 1
that could happen for sure. Oh, definitely, right? Yeah, I mean, Whitney's had a gang of problems yeah
Speaker 2
i
Speaker 1
that makes sense an
Speaker 2
actress whatever i mean musician taylor swift probably got a shitload of stalkers oh my god i mean so many does i mean you know she
Speaker 1
probably has people that think they're married to her yeah
Speaker 2
you know just real
Speaker 1
nuts yeah what's that i think
Speaker 3
somebody just got arrested for that did
Speaker 1
you think he was married to her?
Speaker 3
Something.
Speaker 1
Those stalkers always think that all of your posts are for them. Yeah. They're like, I see what you're doing. They're schizophrenic. That's what it is. And they believe they have some sort of a connection with you. You know, a lot of them say that they have a chip in their head. It's a very common thing they say. I've got a chip in my head. Elon Musk talks to me. Like that kind of shit. For real. It's like that's a that schizophrenic start believing I
Speaker 2
just read that Elon Musk book. I thought it was pretty interesting the Walter Isaacson
Speaker 1
No, I didn't it's good. He's an autobiography. Uh,
Speaker 2
no, it's Walter Isaacson wrote it about uh about Elon Musk. Oh, it's a biography yeah yeah but he did like jobs and einstein he did those books he's a fucking awesome writer but uh yeah i mean i you know him i don't know so it's i was like that's an interesting window into like who he is and like how how what made him that way i'm always curious to like the origin story of like bullied kid and in africa like interesting interesting life yeah
Speaker 1
he's not a normal guy. He can't be. He's a very, very unusual person. And when you talk to him, you can tell, like, in the back of his brain, his mind is just firing. It's just going all, like, I asked him, like, I'm like, what is it like to be you? Like, what is it like to have all these, he's like, you wouldn't want to be me. Yeah, he's not, he doesn't seem happy. He didn't even know that it wasn't normal until he was, like, an older kid, and he's like oh Everybody's not like this where you just got ideas just fucking bouncing around your head like laser beams just constantly go I mean the guys running three different companies simultaneously or four different companies.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think at a time He was doing like five or six to it It's something crazy. It's insane.
Speaker 1
It's like buys Twitter. Yeah posts on it all the time. I mean Dunks on people post memes, you know gets people mad at him And then is also running SpaceX and is also running Tesla and is also running the boring company like what the fuck man?
Speaker 2
He it's having similar characteristics of like a degenerate gambler to be that successful in business like that because you have to be willing to go all in all the time well
Speaker 1
he's one of the very few people that's like the head of a business like that that's also like you know he's an extraordinary human in terms of like the way his mind functions so it's not a normal person no way no you don't get to that level there's none of those other guys that run a lot of the companies that are run by ceos you know you remember when that guy was running microsoft uh the the bomber guy that would jump around and scream it's one of my all-time favorite videos because it's so insane. It's all Microsoft employees, and Steve Ballmer gets out there, and he goes nuts. I mean nuts, like to the point of almost having a fucking heart attack. Oh, they're all dancing. Now
Speaker 2
he owns the Clippers. This
Speaker 1
is a different one. This is when they were all just dancing together, which is also hilarious. Who told them that this was okay? Who told them that this was okay? If I was their friends, I would have said, guys, guys, guys, don't do this. The Rolling Stones are
Speaker 2
like, can you stop using our music? It doesn't make any
Speaker 1
sense. You're on a stage, you're well lit, and you're dancing publicly. You're going to be so awkward. Let's not do this. But a lot of these
Speaker 2
guys, they were pariahs their entire childhood, so this is like their chance. This is their first set, so to speak. Put this back from the beginning.
Speaker 1
Put it back from the beginning. Look at him. Yeah. Look at this, this is insanity. This is insane. Software. Imagine you're in business with these guys like, oh my God, we're in business with maniacs. Well, this is either getting you fired the fuck up or you're like, I'm out. He's laughing though. But this is where it gets corn. Ready for this? Here we go.
Speaker 4
I love this company. Yeah! Brutal. It's
Speaker 1
amazing. You don't get to say yeah after your thing, though. Hey, man, that's the kind of guy I want running my company. He seems like a great owner for the Clippers. He's all in. He's super sweaty. That's what I was saying. I remember this video. But that's like part of his act. You know, his act is that he would go nuts. You know, it was fun. So if you're going to have to do those kind of things, where you go out in front of all the fucking employees and dance around. He's fun. He's having fun. Why not go nutty? Yeah. Why not go nutty? Then people will talk about it forever. Yeah. Can I do a drink by any chance? Yes. Now's the time. Yeah, now's the time. Now's the time, Sam. Whatever you got. We got whiskey. I'll give you glasses. All right. Yeah, whatever you got. There you go. That's what I wanted to hear. Yeah, I mean, that's the kind of guy you want running your dominating software company that's constantly getting shut down for anti-competitive practices. It's
Speaker 2
so weird, though.
Speaker 1
They didn't get shut down. They did get sued a bunch of times, right? Didn't they get? What happened with Microsoft? Like, there was a bunch of, they was a gang of lawsuits when Jamie comes back trying to figure it
Speaker 2
out. It's a different leadership style than like a Musk or a, or a Steve Jobs. A guy who's like those Steve
Speaker 1
Jobs doing that. But
Speaker 2
it's like, those dudes are much more like, fuck you deliver, like, you know, driving you insane. Right. This dude seems like a more friendly. Yeah. He's
Speaker 1
having a good time. But it definitely screaming, but it looked like he was smiling. But
Speaker 2
like Jobs and Musk, I feel like they will put you to your breaking point doing shit you didn't think you could accomplish. And you either break or you do something insane.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I've heard that about both of them. But I guess, just grab anyone. That one's good, Jamie, the one in your right hand. They're both good. Or the Buffalo Trey's good to put that on yeah, whatever you got Yeah, that's like I don't want to do that. I don't want to work on that you would work like that. That's great But you know, maybe maybe I should get a different job. This is just I'm not gonna sleep in the office. It's too much. I got kids You know it should be you should be able actually have a job and not a life. Cheers, my brother. I don't run a business, though. I mean, I kind of do. You
Speaker 2
have employees. You run a business? I do, but
Speaker 1
not that way. It's not the same kind of thing.
Speaker 2
Well, I mean, think of those scenes in Wolf of Wall Street, where he's like, ah! And you're like, all right. I'm not going
Speaker 1
anywhere! Yeah,
Speaker 2
good scene.
Speaker 1
What a great scene. DiCaprio's animal that's
Speaker 2
a i was on tv the other that's a great movie oh my god it's a great movie that's a fun movie he's like yeah he's like it's rare for like actors that mystique he still kind of has some mystique oh
Speaker 1
he's an animal he's so good man he's so good he in so many movies too man and so many different types of characters and it's a few those guys that are just like the last of the real motherfucker movie stars. Leonardo DiCaprio is a motherfucker of a movie star. He is. Like when he's screaming at you and his face is red, you're like, dude. Yeah.
Speaker 2
He's good,
Speaker 1
dude. Did you watch Killers of the Flower Moon? I didn't love it. I did not.
Sam Morril is a stand-up comic, writer, and actor. He's the co-host of the "We Might Be Drunk" podcast with Mark Normand. Catch his special, "Sam Morril: Same Time Tomorrow," on Netflix. www.sammorril.com
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