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Jack White and Ben Jenkins

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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You Shouldn't Be Afraid to Work

"I had that competitive nature, and it served me hugely well," he says. Michael bayroot talks about the same thing, that it's really his work ethic that has propelled him into the strato sphere. "It took two or three years to get out of my system enough to just fully function and not worry about it."

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