Sally Kohn: One of the things from the book that I think was an interesting courageous decision so you decided to tell a deeply personal story about relationship with your with your mother and how that changed. Did you go back and forth on whether to include that or not?Kohn: The whole point of writing is to express the stuff that is not so easy to express in the chatter of everyday life. You know like the real stuff the real stuff there's something about these media that gives us a space to to express what's real and you know deeper and true.

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