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352: ‘I’ve Kissed That Mouse’, With Marco Arment

The Talk Show With John Gruber

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The End of the Johnny Ive Era

i feel like he's doing a solid for his team by allowing people like us to conjecture that, ayh, everything's gotten better since he left. But my comid i don't kno, i don't know either. Even though these are people who were all working under him, for the most part, it's still not him being there. And so the new head of the design team is evans hanky, and she has a remark ly low profile.

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