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#1190 Daniel Westgarth On How To Build A $12 BILLION Company

The Pomp Podcast

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The Importance of the Messy Middle

When things get really messy, really hectic, I refer back to that point of many different steps in a journey. And it could be your honest certain step. That book is really good at giving reassurance and helping me communicate that reassurance to the wider team itself. It's so messy. Things are breaking. Relationships aren't working. People are falling out and you're in the messy middle. But without being in the middle, you're not progressing. You're not growing.

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