Angela recalls a conversation that she had with stephen about starting her own podcast. Stephen references the work of dan kahan and his research on education levels, but he can't remember whether the scholar is a psychologist or a political scientist. My mam, at 85, is completely open minded to just anything, honestly. I mean, any time i say, how about we try this? What if we did something totally differentl she's usually like, ok, so what your saying is, i have the wrong member of the family on the show with me.