Choosing defiance and hope

Musician Nick Cave has experienced the death of two of his sons. He tells Anderson how, over time, these losses have changed his relationship with the world; expanding his heart and widening his “capacity for love.”

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Host: Anderson Cooper

Showrunner: Haley Thomas

Producers: Chuck Hadad, Grace Walker, Emily Williams

Associate Producer: Kyra Dahring

Video Editor: Eric Zembrzuski

Technical Director: Dan Dzula

Bookers: Kerry Rubin and Kari Pricher 

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