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Best of Design Matters: Brad Listi

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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The Nervous Breakdown

In 2011, you started the podcast, Other People. You've done a lot with all of this extension into what has always seemed to be a little bit different. I feel like book people or at least some book people need to help create book media and we need to kind of promote ourselves. And there's nobody who is more acutely frustrated with great writers not getting attention they deserve than I am.

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