Kanye West's Cheesecake Factory

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"I would say more people would want to probably be around that guy than the president or something, which I don't understand," he says. "It no offense to people like Cheesecake Factory, but I can't stand it." When Kanye West was in Dayton for Dave Chappelle's big event, he went to the Cheesecake factory. He and his people probably have an arrangement with the franchise because they've done it enough times where they know that it's big enough. Most places are not going to be able to accommodate that.

Today Josh speaks with Sam McNerney about the growing conspiratorial culture in the West, its further detachment from reality, free will, and the implications of us potentially living in a simulation.

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The root of cults and religion.
Mental illness and mental viruses.
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The philosophical differences between chains and small businesses.
Existentialism, secularism, and simulated realities.
Mental health, religion, submission, and control.
The Matrix, free will, and purpose.
Does it matter if we live in a simulation?
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Sam McNerney is an applied behavioral scientist, market researcher, and brand strategist based in Brooklyn, New York. He has worked with brands such as Walmart, Procter & Gamble, and CitiBank.

As a writer, he has interviewed business and academic leaders including Arianna Huffington, Andrew Yang, Jonathan Haidt, and Charles Murray – and his essays have been featured in publications like The Washington Post, Psychology Today, and Scientific American.

Now as an independent consumer insights specialist, he specializes in using surveys to help businesses answer questions about their customers that unlock the greatest value.

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