
60: Petey - Hidde van der Ploeg
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Freelancing in Design
At this point, you're kind of making things for fun slash learning on the side. At some point, you've transitioned to full time. And were those like free? Were they paid up front? Like what was your, were you trying to make money or are these like learning experience type things? I like experiment a bit like how does it work when you charge money for it? How does it like how do you get it on the market in general? You know yourself, that's always fun to do.
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