I find that in talking to most sort of well-educated people and my friend circles, that they are explicitly moral relativists, but implicitly utilitarian. And so if you push them far enough, maybe they'll admit that explicitly, but then they might fall back on relativism or something like that. Well, they're relative when it's convenient. Yeah, for me, utilitarianism is an example of something that I reason to myself out of as far as I'm concerned. It sounds superficially like the right thing to do, but I think the objections to it are good enough that I'm looking for something better.

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