The Origins of Curating Gains and Events

Na've was born out of, you've explained, it's born out of all of these sort of quite seemingly practical constraints. But through all of that problem solving, you've created something absolutely beautiful. And I just, I really love the atmosphere that was there, that it's something that I hadn't felt sort of in a long time being an event. So sorry, people on the podcast that you don't get to experience that. Na've is everything that surrounds that. We are not trying to define anything, but we're keeping it cool and then making another one.