The EFF's Guide to Getting Spy Grade Information

Travis: I was nervous about that kind of thing. The EFF told you what? They were like, here's kind of the lines that you don't cross. So now if we go back to the defense contracting fishing that we were talking about, it sounds like you were in a position to get spy grade information. You mentioned getting locations, phone numbers. But this is really good because we're talking about the fact that this is how you got your, you know, your, your skills. These are tactics. For instance, cameras and hackers would use. Yeah. This is like you were a to catch a predator before to catch a better before ended up on TV. Exactly.