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Jenny Odell on SAVING TIME: DISCOVERING A LIFE BEYOND THE CLOCK

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Is Leisure a System of Time?

LZ Granderson: I'm going to grab a piece of language that you use later in the book where you're talking about systems of time. And maybe it's still refreshing but I think of it as almost more like spiritually refreshing than being able to go to work energetically on Monday kind of refreshing, he says. LZ: We really do need to redefine and change how we think about what leisure can look like but also how we access it. He talks about this one book and you've read so much and put so much research into this book but yet it flies. It's from like 1925 and it sounds very self helping. Dude is just like, don't look

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