The Importance of Navigating Human Life

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I do think that that will mark if that happens, essentially a singularity which is uncontained, that will mark the beginning of the end of our species. We have to engage with those darker possible scenarios in order to try and make sure we're not on a default trajectory of heading towards this being an inevitability. And that is really the main reason that I've embarked on building DeepMind and now building inflection. Because I think that you have to demonstrate that it can be built in ways that respect and adhere to human values or unleashed in uncontrollable forms. It does to me feel like a long, long way away, like many decades away - but it isn't inconceivable.

It’s easy to assume that we all have kindness and care in our daily lives. But not everyone has a family member or friend to lean on during hard times. What if there was a technology that provides easy access to support and consideration? In the first episode of our miniseries about AI and the personal, Reid and Aria are joined by artificial intelligence researcher and founder Mustafa Suleyman. Mustafa co-founded and served as former head of applied AI at DeepMind. His current venture is Inflection—and his co-founder is Reid. Mustafa discusses AI in the context of other technological advancements throughout history and shares the philosophies that guide his work and life. He also talks about Inflection, and the various ways personal AI can enhance our day-to-day lives. Pi, an AI developed by Inflection, also joins the conversation.

Read the transcript of this episode here.

Read the exchange between Reid and Pi here.

Try Inflection's Pi at https://heypi.com/

You can pre-order Mustafa's book, The Coming Wave, here.

For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all of the episodes, visit www.possible.fm/podcast.

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5:47 - Hellos and intros

8:04 - Mustafa’s work at DeepMind

11:04 - Philosophies and context that guide Mustafa’s work

13:52 - Mustafa’s book—and books as a type of technology

21:02 - Comparing AI and nuclear technology

24:26 - The downsides and upsides of AI

27:23 - What is Pi?

31:08 - A conversation with Pi

35:24 - Uses of Pi

37:07 - The future of personal artificial intelligence

41:36 - Rapidfire questions

46:57 - Debrief with Reid and Aria

Possible is a podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Most of all, it asks: what if, in the future, everything breaks humanity's way? In its first season, hosts Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger spoke with visionaries across many fields, from climate science to criminal justice, and from entertainment to education. For this special miniseries, they’re speaking with expert builders and skilled users of artificial intelligence. These conversations also feature another kind of guest, AI. Whether it’s Inflection’s Pi or OpenAI’s GPT-4, each episode will include an AI-generated element to spark discussion.

Possible is produced by Wonder Media Network and hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger. Our showrunner is Shaun Young. Possible is produced by Edie Allard and Sara Schleede. Jenny Kaplan is our Executive Producer and Editor. Special thanks to Samantha Barber, Surya Yalamanchili, Ian Alas, Greg Beato and Ben Relles.