i followed thet kind of gould sagon, you know, its cosmo sagon famously portrayed these giant gas planets like jupiter. He didn't want to show terrestrial like objects. The atmosphere is far too turbulent to allow that sort of thing to happen. There's a ongoing discuss about the habitability of the cloud deck in venus. i love this becausey my instinct is that there isn't any life there, but there are a few strands of evidence which are very, very tantalizing and may yet turn out to be,. But of course,  we'll see what happens.

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