When Uli Chi thinks of wisdom, he primarily thinks of relational well-being. 

Steve and Uli discuss where wisdom and relationships intersect, why we need wise leaders, and what it looks like to relate rather than react. They discuss the current political climate and how it affects human connections, and they consider the importance of treating people as persons, not as simple ideas. Uli sheds light on concrete steps for living wisely, drawing on biblical examples that provide hope, direction, and opportunities for delight.

Resources mentioned in this episode include:

• Uli Chi
• The Wise Leader by Uli Chi
• “Ash Wednesday” by T. S. Eliot
• Necessary Endings: The Employees, Businesses, and Relationships That All of Us Have to Give Up in Order to Move Forward by Henry Cloud
• The Humor of Christ by Elton Trueblood

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