Creatures of Capitol Hill
The Dispatch Podcast
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Is Donald Trump Really Meaning It?
Jonah Goldberg: It's been a bad week for Trump. He doesn't actually believe that Trump cares whether Kevin McCarthy is speaker. But what we're seeing now is what Trumpism without Trump looks like, right? Half the House Freedom Caucus are voting from McCarthy. That means he's just not the Trump he was three years ago.
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