Surprise Dynamics in Tory Leadership

Kemi Badenoch or Robert Jenrick will be the next leader of the Conservatives, after MPs selected the pair to go to a final vote before party members. But who will survive the rough and tumble of Tory hustings? Plus, Morgan McSweeney is now all-powerful in Keir Starmer’s top team – but is this reset enough to stop the chaos in government? John Harris is joined by the Guardian’s political correspondent Kiran Stacey to explore these issues Support the Guardian today: theguardian.com/politicspod. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/politicspod