Jacob and Nikhil sit down with Will Stokes, Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer of Strive Health, a pioneer in value-based care that partners with payers and providers to care for patients with chronic kidney disease. They discuss the nuances of risk-based contracting, value-based models for specialists, selling to both payers and providers, and more.

(0:00) intro

(0:39) when do risk-based models make sense

(8:50) surprises when building Strive

(13:53) negotiating risk-based contracts

(21:08) primary care for patients with specialized conditions

(30:28) approaching risk-adjustment changes

(34:35) using LLMs at Strive

(38:44) when does it make sense to incubate a company?

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