Navigating Guilt and Shame in Conversations about Race

Last week we brought you an episode on how the Labor party achieved gender parity through 30 years of affirmative action. But while important gains have been made by women, Australia still lags behind other multicultural countries when it comes to representing its population. In this episode, Nour Haydar speaks to writer and commentator Sisonke Msimang about why parliament is more diverse than ever but still doesn’t reflect Australian society