I think on the one hand, if we do work that really genuinely is deeply meaningful to us, it can be a powerful. But if we don't, you know, it can also be this double negative that kind of just really takes us down. We derive our own sense of meaning just as a human being from the thing that we do rather than saying, do I have meaning just because of the simple fact of my existence? So in a leadership role, of course, we're hiring people with less hope. Hope levels change the school system. Hope levelsChange the way people parent or the way they partner with their significant other. These are all huge impacts that we're having every day

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode