Introduction

Life and leadership inevitably bring seasons of disruption and instability. What do we do when the ground shifts beneath us, and the places we thought were safe no longer hold? In this conversation, Trisha Taylor talks with Rusty Mackey about resilience as a guiding principle—learning to live with instability, to cultivate presence, and to find stability not in circumstances but in God.

Guest Bio

Rusty McKie is a spiritual director, spiritual formation coach, and somatic coach. He is the founder of Steadfast Ministries, where he helps leaders survive and thrive in ministry. Rusty is also the host of The Art of Stability podcast and author of the book The Art of Stability: How Staying Present Changes Everything. His newest initiative, Man School, is a five-year rite of passage curriculum designed to equip fathers to raise their sons into men of character. Rusty lives out his passion for helping leaders and families build resilience through presence, reflection, and spiritual depth.

Conversation Overview

Guiding principles as steady reference points in instability
Instability as an invitation from God rather than betrayal
The link between fragility, resilience, and presence
The role of lament and compassion in cultivating resilience
Orientation, disorientation, and reorientation as a cycle of growth
Noticing our bodies and responses in times of instability
How personal growth reshapes leadership and relationships

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