I Don't Want to Be an Anti-Vaxxer, but I'm Not a Vaxxer.

I worry that we just can't effectively message anything of consequence without it just getting obliterated by conspiracy thinking and partisan politics. There's lots of corruption in medicine, but there's also a genius thing to come up with that new technology type of vaccine. And as I said to him, there are some pathogens I would fight you for the vaccine. Although Pfizer I think did just quadruple the price of the next vaccine.