Summary
In this episode of the Data Engineering Podcast, host Tobias Macey welcomes back Nick Schrock, CTO and founder of Dagster Labs, to discuss Compass - a Slack-native, agentic analytics system designed to keep data teams connected with business stakeholders. Nick shares his journey from initial skepticism to embracing agentic AI as model and application advancements made it practical for governed workflows, and explores how Compass redefines the relationship between data teams and stakeholders by shifting analysts into steward roles, capturing and governing context, and integrating with Slack where collaboration already happens. The conversation covers organizational observability through Compass's conversational system of record, cost control strategies, and the implications of agentic collaboration on Conway's Law, as well as what's next for Compass and Nick's optimistic views on AI-accelerated software engineering.

Announcements

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Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Nick Schrock about building an AI analyst that keeps data teams in the loop

Interview

Introduction
How did you get involved in the area of data management?
Can you describe what Compass is and the story behind it?
context repository structure
- how to keep it relevant/avoid sprawl/duplication
providing guardrails
how does a tool like Compass help provide feedback/insights back to the data teams?
preparing the data warehouse for effective introspection by the AI
LLM selection
cost management
- caching/materializing ad-hoc queries
Why Slack and enterprise chat are important to b2b software
How AI is changing stakeholder relationships
How not to overpromise AI capabilities
How does Compass relate to BI?
How does Compass relate to Dagster and Data Infrastructure?
What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Compass used?
What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Compass?
When is Compass the wrong choice?
What do you have planned for the future of Compass?

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Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

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