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🇺🇦 How Far Can NATO Go?

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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john lov is a former nato representative in moscow and now an associate fellow of the russia and urasia programme at chatham house. He rejoins us to update us on the current state of play in nato, the likely tragectory for western powers role in this conflict and the long term imprications for the global boo-boo. John's immediate thoughts are that this operation is not playing out the way the russians expect it. And i think they have completely failed to understand how much ukraine has changed over the last 30 years.

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