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Jeffrey Epstein and Gellaine Maxwell
I think a lot of people seem to agree with the allegations but again it's hard to know when it comes to Epstein you know if your name gets associated with him even Epstein acknowledged in early 2019 he's radioactive is the word he used to describe himself after his first arrest. After 1991 it was definitely very business partner stuff there's been a lot of this stuff out there to absolve Gellaine I think in a sense where they say oh she was just enamored with them and that's why she did everything it's much more complicated than that, says Dershowitz.