Does the Four-Year Bitcoin Cycle Still Matter?

In this episode, Bryce and Brendan interview Jim Hiltner of SuperState, who explains how tokenization is redefining finance by merging traditional markets with blockchain infrastructure. He discusses the success of SuperState’s $1.5B in AUM across its tokenized funds and how institutions like BlackRock and Fidelity are beginning to integrate similar technology. The conversation covers macroeconomic uncertainty, the U.S.–China trade tensions, and why altcoins are lagging behind major assets like Bitcoin and Ethereum. Hiltner concludes that tokenization isn’t killing crypto’s revolutionary spirit—it’s empowering individuals to control their assets 24/7 while preparing traditional finance for an on-chain future.

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Chapters

00:00 — Intro

03:14 — Jim’s background: from CitiBank to Compound Treasury and launching SuperState.

06:56 — Overview of SuperState’s funds (USTB & USCC) and the rise of tokenized assets.

09:22 — Macro discussion: Fed rate cuts, inflation trends, and gold vs. Bitcoin performance.

14:51 — U.S.–China tariff tension and crypto market reaction to geopolitical shocks.

18:11 — The U.S. government shutdown’s impact on regulation and SEC progress.

22:12 — The state of altcoins and why institutional investors focus on majors like BTC, ETH, and SOL.

28:48 — Deep dive into USTB and USCC fund mechanics and yields.

37:01 — Opening Bell initiative: tokenizing public equities and transforming traditional markets.

47:04 — Debate on whether crypto’s revolutionary ethos is fading or evolving through tokenization.

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