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271: Michael Shellenberger's Punk Rock Moment

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

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I'm Pro City, Right?

I like to see natural habitats like wetlands and forests, but I've also been to the south of France and there's some amazing low productive farms. They take up three to 600 times more land on average than a natural gas or nuclear power plant. So you know, I don't want to be dogmatic about it. But yeah, I mean, cities are concentrating human activity so that you have abundant natural areas.

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