Renele: I think one of the things you have to do is sort of have a game or is just sort of something. Some interaction, but just some sort of it starts here begins here and that sort of and then just banter around it as that's why people are listening to podcast. We would agree though, that mandates are pretty extraordinary measures. Yes. Now looking back at it, looking back on it, almost everything now you're like, it seems really will there be an inquiry? Should there be an Inquiry? Hold on. That doesn't interest a lot of COVID talk. This one got the blue check mark. First one about 20 episodes. He was like,