Software developers work in something that seems to be fundamentally immaterial, which is super cool. It's kind of why I've gotten into 3D printing - you have this experience of downloading an STL file from a site and then it's a physical object. Well, that's metaphysically interesting worth pondering on some other occasion. Yeah. And all kinds of great things about that. All you need is a computer. You don't need $10,000, $20,000 in test equipment and stuff and environmental impact. That's glorious. But then also we have bodies. We live in this material world.