I think we've beeng a bit unfair to him as as a stoic and in terms of his philosophical knowledge. He understands the arguments that, you know, fate gives us the push, but it's because the cylinder is the shape that it is thatknow, rolls down the hill. So hes, he's really thinking about the relationship between our individual moral response ability and what's been predetermined. And also there's that there's a real knowledge of a lot of philosophers. The only person he doesn't,. as far as i can remember, really discuss, is aristotle, whose works were not, what? Not?

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