The G20 is meeting in Bali right now, I think, the top 20 nations. If they can get their act together and you know all these players that are there, that is probably the biggest thing that we could do. There's a lot of forward thinking here. And also it's a bit of a bet because you perhaps don't know exactly what is going to be needed. Helen: What do you see in that space? You know, what needs to be done now to make sure things can happen in 2030.

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