The Fourth Turning: How the Culture Has Appropriated Something but Made Mistakes About It

Sally Kohn: Women are expected to be a certain kind of way, right? And when we're not, it can be very disappointing for the people who are expecting us to be otherwise. So how do you not get bogged down with the definition of the queen and then dig into the character specificity that we have to have to create an actual real complicated compelling character? Sally Kohn: There's a book called The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe about generational archetypes. That could be a good resource for people. It talks about high awakening unraveling in crisis like Boomers X, millennial Z.