I'm very good for podcasts in the sense that I don't come along with a particularly sort of prescribed package I just have my feelings about things and they tend to free float. Do you think maybe there is a role for you outside music as well as you mean to go on people's to just podcast the dodgy podcast to talk more talk more write more yeah. what happens next? I've never really had a very good sense of that I'm just the thing that I do really well is to involve myself fully in the particular task at hand and so that's not too worried too much about the future.