Speaker 1
I think that the lesson of the war is that this golden era of Europe, where we could afford pacifism because we were under nuclear umbrella by the United States. It's over. And pacifism means just more compromises. I'm especially horrified by the inside proposed by some of my leftist. When they say that they oppose the war, they sympathize with Ukrainians, but they say they oppose the war. Because NATO is in the war, just for economic capital reasons to further develop and strengthen the of its military industrial complex. And basically what NATO is saying, what this leftist are saying to you is. Okay, this is somehow rational, but not with arms, because if you use Western arms, you support American military industrial complex. It's a model of hypocrisy. I think this men and colleagues of Europe is running out of its time. Military mobilization, but also mobilization to cope with ecological catastrophes hunger and so on and so on. I agree that we should exist the temptation of glorifying war as an authentic experience and so on. But I think what we need today is not just military mobilization, but a general mobilization. There are serious dangers. So now I come back to my beginning, the price of nothing. We could be aware that we will have to pay a heavy price for nothing, which means our liberty. And we will help pay it by accepting that there is no return to our normality. We are entering new era, and here I see what you gradients are doing for Europe. You will, I hope, push us to awaken from the melancholic apathy and makes us accept the necessity of a new mobilization. We have not just even primarily military mobilization, but again, old normalization is over. We have again fight for our liberty to redefine our liberty. So we should totally drop this idea that you are some kind of unfortunate exception, let's just impose some peace, not pushing, putting too far. No, I think in a way, although I don't always agree with him, but here you're Zelensky. Sorry. Yes, Zelensky was right when he said that you are fighting for Europe, not in this trip since just defending Europe, but in your fate, the fate of Europe will be decided. And I don't mean just this keep beating Russia and so on. It's that Europe has to be awakened from its melancholic apathy, where we are not real to act.